Knicks fans Ben Schwartz, Jason Concepcion, Ariel Helwani and Pablo Torre discuss the glory days, the most heartbreaking moments as a Knicks fan and their hope for the future.
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Knicks Fan Roundtable: Ben Schwartz, Ariel Helwani & Jason Concepcion talk about hope and delusion
Dipublikasikan tanggal 21 Peb 2021
Komentar
senor frog
why you gotta show the charles smith incident...
Will Hudson
I cant unsee the milkman
Phillip Walker
I became a Knick fan following Melo from Denver. I stayed after he went to Houston. Hasn’t been easy but I’m glad they are again becoming respectable.
I don’t have the nostalgic memories of Oakley so I wasn’t too tied to the incident at MSG. To me I wasn’t too frustrated as other Knicks fans.
Daniel Pagan
Even though he is promoting his new movie to me he still should be introduced as Ben Schwartz star of Parks and Rec and Sonic The Hedgehog!
Rudie Obias
I didn't realize Jason Concepcion left The Ringer. 😥
Chris Polinsky
5:31
Steven Aceto
Suddenly we look as deep as the Mariana Trench
Dale Gribble
Only espn will spend so much time on a garbage fire
Jason Vizcarra
You’re either a fan or not. People denouncing or jumping the bandwagon were never fans to begin with.
BxBoy71
ESPN is trash. You have a guy who says he's not a Knick fan hosting a Knick fan roundtable so you can LOL the team. If you don't like us why do you spend so much time trying to get our attention. Big thumbs down on this garbage.
Sublime Music Channel
Is Torre delusional or simply doing shtick like Max Kellerman? Either there are two--and ONLY two--NBA observers in the country who do NOT see that the K's have turned things around from the top down, or they're both so wedded to the ESPN business model of fake beef that they do devil's advocate out of instinct. It must be the latter because NO ONE'S that clueless. Riddle me this, Batman:
Who do you take--J. Randle or Krispy Portzebie? (MAD Magazine reference alert)
Who do you take--21 year-old I. Quickley and his rookie contract or 28 year-old T. Hardaway and his bloated one?
RJ Barrett raised his FT% by 14 points since last season--will he not use this NEXT off-season to make himself a credible outside shooter and does that not then make him an instant all-star if combined with his 7 reb and 3.5 assists?
How many 4th offensive option centers do you take over Mitchell Robinson?
Will Obi Toppin not emerge from out of J. Randle's shadow in 18 months once the latter is being overwhelmed with $40m/year offers from other teams to pick up where he left off?
Is Tom Thibideau's 11th all-time winning% imaginary?
No, Torre and Kellerman are not monkeys--they're just PRETENDING to be. Nice work if you can get it.
Jon Snow-Targaryen
Ben gets it. Yankees, Knicks, and Giants. The way it should be
Samuel G
I’m now reconsidering being a Knicks fan now that I know Ariel Helwani is a Knicks fan too
Chris Atkinson
Is Concepcion still a FA?
aaron vazquez
thank you for this
bdgamble7
Thank God the Knicks didn't resign Lin!
Frankenviews *
I just hate how the Knicks management fu
Andrew Rivera
Pablo is such a bummer in this.., the others are true authentic fans
Tony Pen
Best Knicks Memory? Larry Johnson's 4-point play.
Tony Pen
Last I heard of Jason Concepcion was lulz Knicks slander out his Twitter feed. Still a fan? 🧐 Frontrunner.
Tony Pen
It's Jean Ralphio!
Andrew Rivera
I don’t like Pablo’s tone to start this out, it doesn’t seem authentic.
KnicksFanTV
👀👀👀👀👀👀
JoJoJoris
ALL HAIL TO THE MILKMAN
Charlie Furca
IDk about Pablo being there if he quit on us in 2015, gottta stay loyal no matter what, get CP from Knicsfantv on this
Sheik
Pablo Torre? wth is this? He should be banned from talking about the knicks!
Dylan1k
LOL why does Jason sound like that?
Bailey LaBerteaux
Absolutely outstanding spice from Ariel at the buzzer. Reminds me too much of NBA desktop 😔
Donald Chavis
This is how I love my Knicks fans to be, cocky, bragging, just ready to talk trash. I hate those Knick seasons where they win 23 games, no give me the 45+ win seasons so when they get crushed in the postseason it is much more fun to watch. (I'm a Heat fan)
T Rock
The Spike Lee public shaming was pretty terrible too. The man bleeds blue and orange.
Zack Hayes
This dude in red has the voice of a woman. That genuinely made me laugh out loud.
Goose Pecker
New York Knicks suck
Job Acevedo
Love the bunk beds. Yo I’m not a Knicks fan but I love love this conversation! Great segment.
Juice 423
I am glad they got Derrick Rose
richardsucks
If the Lakers ever threw out Magic or Kobe, I would not be a Lakers fan. Can't imagine them throwing out Jack Nicholson
. The Knicks don't deserve your loyalty.
Fearless BLaZ
Bradley, Mr. Beal sir... I don't know that man! NY would love Beal, no cap!
Randy Lorde
Guy on top left sounds like a girl
A Rizzo
What is ariel H doing here??
Scruff D0g
ESPN Loves to make fun of the Knicks even though zero of the players, coaches and personal have anything to do with it, James Dolan is the reason.
Tom Bystander
Ben schwartz is my spirit animal. Dude is hilarious.
Kyle Gabriel
Knicks are a horrible franchise. The only reason they were ever relevant is because they were able to attract top FA and never build a good team
LasttWhisper
so basically espn likes to make video only about.
LeESPN
LeKNICKS
LeCOWBOYS
tdmainevent
It’s both. You can always hope but know that the worst is likely to happen
Luke Canale
As a jets fan Knicks seem 2b the better my team
Ernest Jeter
Knicks fans are the best we know what it is, you can't fool us. We been down so long we know what takes to win
Tony Scrilla702
I remember I was with my brother and 2 cousins across the street at a pizza spot right by the Madison Square Garden and the Knicks beat the Pacers and they made it to the finals (The lockout year)
We ran with the crowd all the way to Time Square, Cars honking their horns
It was hella dope (I'm a Lakers fan but enjoyed that day)
Amcandy23
I didn't know Sonic was a Knicks fan.
Anthony Childress
Da Bulls!
bryan greene
All these guys trying to prove they aren't bandwagon fans. You know the Knicks are about to be good.
12st Numbers
Adam Silver saved the pelicans with Zion he’ll save the Knicks this year with the Kam kid
Tyrell Wright
With who?
Otis Youngblood
Delusional
Chocolate Lady Cap
That ending was spicy 😆😆😆
R10goal
I rather be a knicks fan than a fan who follows lebron to what ever team he play for
Sheik
THANK YOU ! thats what i've been saying
MrDayday4641
100
Monk Bop
ESPN would never do this with the T-Wolves.
Sincere Israel
It's NYc the mecca of basketball
Brian Conway
Today I learned Sonic the Hedgehog is a Knicks fan. Pretty dope
Todd Lerfahndler
anyone who "stops being a fan" was never a fan to begin with. You either stick with a team, or you're a fake bandwagon
Todd Lerfahndler
@Robby Oak That's a bandwagon mentality. Real fans would never abandon their team. Any knicks fan that left the knicks because "the Knicks left them" were never Knicks fans to begin with.
Robby Oak
I guess it depends on your definition of fan. If it's the insane blind fanatic definition then sure, anyone who left that would certainly not ever go back. But if its the I actively root for and follow this team definition? No man, you don't get to exclude those ppl from that, and the team wants those ppl back. There's a ton of Knicks fans that would say they didn't leave the Knicks, the Knicks left them.
Eddie C
I think it's no different than us Cowboy fans
Christopher Chamoun
Seeing Ben Schwartz and Ariel Helwani in the same video is like a dream mix between my loves for Jake & Amir and MMA
SUPERR_NERD 730
*timberwolves fan watching* 🤨
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ERIC HAVNEN
Stupidity... FACT!!!
Ethan Hamilton
Why did they do Ben Schwartz dirty with that thumbnail😂
basketfreak023
It made me click 🤣
Rodney White
This is the 1st time NYK is even in contention for a spot since the last time they made the playoffs at all in 2013. What happened then? They got swept. But that’s neither here nor there. For 35-40 years, being a Knicks fan, regardless of how many playoff games they do or don’t win, has been nothing but a pipe dream because it’s been that long since the last time they did anything serious. And although they have a young core that’s on the rise it’ll probably be another few years before the effects of that core become positive ones. If they become positive ones, that is. If they don’t just do like every other young, talented New York Knick and choose to play for an actual contending team. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Oh, the Knicks.
MrDayday4641
They did not get swept in 2013. They went to game six (nearly game seven) in the second round with the Pacers (who pushed Miami to seven). They also won a playoff game in 11-12 (they drew Miami in the opening round). They got swept in 10-11, but those were the very young Gallo, not quite prime David Lee, and near retirment T-Mac days.
Aidan Chung
Knicks fans have to face reality and just root for the nets
Paul Jackson
Alan Houston, Marcus Camby, Sprewell, would the 1999 Knicks have beaten the Spurs in the finals if Patrick Ewing is healthy?
Juice 423
I believe it would have went 7 games
Jesus Torres
Why does ESPN love throwing dirt on the Knicks?
joey jackson
Because they're owned by Disney that's why I stopped watching them
Robby Oak
Warning: did not realize I was still angry about the Knicks...
Putting up w that joke of a sports franchise and calling it loyalty is what enabled them to continue to SUCK for so long. Its YOUR FAULT. Sell out the games, buy the merch, watch on tv for ratings for Dolan to sell advertising- winning not required. Competitive success not required. Good product not required. Seriously? The girl is telling you she doesn't love you but you keep calling, hoping. You know when the girl wants you back? When you don't need her anymore, when your attention is elsewhere even if u aren't dating anyone.
The formula has been abundantly clear and proven across the sports: get right GM to run the show who gets the right coach, make smart personnel and contract moves. Yankees do it. Mets trying. Nets doing. Giants trying to get back to it. Islanders omg ISLANDERS doing. And now the JETS? C'mon now.
/sigh. I'm not coming back until there's something to root for, and I need more than a Jeremy Linn ARE YOU NOT LINTERTAINED! feel good story. Man, I thought that's where it was going to turn. And for those who say since I left I'm not allowed to be a fan, FINE. I'll just be a follower.
Robby Oak
Keep running the organization like a 3rd grade gym dodgeball game and I won't.
MarcoPolo
Don’t come back
Baltej Bains
"staggeringly delusional" - knicks fans hopes
MrShanester117
Just the fact of people choosing a team and saying “I now have an emotional connection to this team I just chose.” It’s the most idiotic aspect of humanity I can think of.
Dave Rodriguez
A true sadist would never try to hurt a Knicks fan ....think about why
C Marshall
Oakley betrayed us all. Y'all got that wrong. I was at the game and he wasn't stopping until he got arrested. 90% chance he did it on purpose. None of that was Dolan's fault.
The Logo
They have one of the most underrated coaches ever. So it is enough for decent score.
MarcosEnrique Phillips
as a knicks fan im proud of this years team
Charles Stanley
I bled Knicks back in the 90s
If they ever come back I will be there until then I have Brooklyn
KENNYDREAD
@Big Moist Nipples I've lived in Sacramento for 29 years. I'm 30....so yeah I do.
Big Moist Nipples
@KENNYDREAD I'm a Kings fan, u don't know what misery is.
KENNYDREAD
@Big Moist Nipples Can't be miserable forever 🤣
Big Moist Nipples
Bandwagon
Starlin Germosen
We shoking the world this Year....now comment after and. ..... go newyork go newyork gooooooo😂😂😂😂
Jay M
Loyal Supporters! Let's Go Knicks! Thibs doing his ting, D Rose gna finally win championship with us! IQ OBI RJ RANDLE MITCH ROSE...Boom!
anthony
Make Dolan sell the team.
John P
That thumbnail dude ugly asf lmao
Jeremy Camacho
It’s alil of both lol. I’ve been a Knick fan majority of my life and it’s one of the hardest teams to root for when it comes to being a basketball fan. But I hope one day the Knicks will be where we all want them to be...it may take another 20yrs but hopefully the Knicks owner will be gone due to age and nutrition lmao..
Rafael Gonzalez Jr
Better then a DETROIT LIONS FAN ! 😫
Davis Smith
Try being a kings fan
inFAMOUS GAMiNG
Is that sonic?
Rugare Jeche
This is like watching 4 Leeds or Tottenham fans talk about the glory years
Alen Anthony
tottenham ? glory years ? you're having a laugh 😂😂😂
Samuel Satchell
Tottenham had glory years??
Chuck Hauser
Delusional, not even playing.500 🏀 & they wanna put up a banner @ the garden, lmao 😂
offix_mb
sure chuck sure
Walter Strozier
Knicks are the Cowboys of the nba. Delusional fan base
Walter Strozier
No y’all support garbage and get rewarded with nothing while the owner still gets richer giving garbage product
Your Friendly Neighborhood Smark
HOW DARE YOU. We know we’re gonna suck every year but we stick with our team. We’re the only fan base with integrity because we don’t run to the best player on the best team whenever our team sucks
J.R. Brooklyn
Nets > Knicks
J.R. Brooklyn
@Jason S cut it out kid lmfao. There's no team beating the Nets in a 7 game series.
Jason S
@J.R. Brooklyn 97 Rockets, 03, Lakers, '11 Heat. Remember that. Over...rated.
J.R. Brooklyn
@Jason S hilarious lmfao. Nets been in Brooklyn 9 years and have already built championship roster thats more than likely to win this year. Knicks been in NY 75 years and have never had a roster of this caliber lmfaooo watching nets games must cut deep being a knicks fan lmfao. knicks been in a shambles since 1999 lol. and it'll continue that way as long a Dolan owns that dumpster fire. you bums strike out in free agency year after year cause no one wants to play for a mess of a franchise.
Jason S
@J.R. Brooklyn Neither does it with the Nets lmfaoo. Since when were the Nets associated with winning and championships??? When the franchise has zilch to show. Don't let this lil hype season fool you, this is another 1997 Rockets, 03 Lakers, 2011 Heat.
J.R. Brooklyn
@Jason S "a solid core" lmfaoooo the word "bright" and "future" doesn't correlate with the knicks lmfao
Rydawg 26
Jean Ralphio!!!
Jalendashaun
yoooooo
Adebambo Adejobi
Kinda disgusting from ESPN to jump on the bandwagon after bashing the Knicks for literal decades
Dave Curry
Great Question? Knicks my hometown team are a joke period. I don’t see it changing anytime soon.
Dave Curry
I have been there ok. 14-16 nothing to get excited about. We have seen this before
offix_mb
then have u not been watching this year
Gabe Mendoza
Hope. Every fanbase is a bit delusional. Once they start winning again, it'll be the NY Knicks of the 90's people remember.
roadkarma
This is the best content ESPN put up all week
Brodie
I can already see ESPN working Ariel like they do Stephan A.
GOAT
If the Wizards beat the Lakers tomorrow, LeBron's MVP chances gets buried, ok? After the Wizards, it's Jazz, Blazers, and Warriors. Those teams should keep driving to the lane. Make them miss Dwight & JaVale more.
Gerard McCarthy
Ariel Helwani branching out to talking absolute bollocks about a second sport
Manny I
is that grown man with a bunk bed?
GOAT
I kept telling the Laker fans and Bronsexuals to keep yapping. To keep gloating. To keep mocking the Clippers. Why so quiet now? 🤣 Karma is a motherf...., ain't it? LeBron can't even threepeat but some think he's the GOAT? 🤣
Lexcalibur
I remember going to a group for people who are supporting family members with mental illness. This has very much the same kinda energy.
GOAT
Lakers with Anthony Davis lost to the Clippers, Sixers, Blazers, Spurs, and Warriors. They are 0-2 vs top 5 teams and 4-6 vs top 10 teams. They sure look unbeatable to me! 🤣 Lucky af bubble ring. The 2020 chumps looks one and done.
WrecclessEscobar
RENT FREE
Emmanuel Mensah
ESPN loves to poke fun on the Knicks
Jay Jo
What is this horrible show and why is it on espn.